An interview with Kathryn Black, author of Mothering Without a Map: Finding the Good Mother Within. Kathryn talked about her own experience of feeling “under-mothered” and the fear she had of passing on a painful legacy to her children. She said that the very moments when she most fell into repetition were the same moments where healing was possible, by going into the feelings and exploring them instead of trying to contain them. Kathryn spoke of the courage it takes to face the pain of any childhood and to move past idealization through blame to acceptance. She spoke about the fantasy that childhood is perfectible and of how much striving and overcompensating that can generate.