An interview with terrorism expert Jessica Stern about her experience following a rape at age 15. Jessica speaks about the way her story was not believed by the police resulting in further rapes of over 40 children. She also addresses the way in which her father did not initially take the rape seriously and the way she felt pressured not to look into her past. Jessica describes the experience of living with PTSD, especially the confusing way in which she did not feel fear in dangerous situations (like interviewing terrorists in pakistan), while also feeling panicked by small triggers that she did not know were connected to the trauma. Ultimately Jessica developed the capacity to be intensely curious and empathic toward violent men as a way to try and make sense of what happened to her.