An interview with personal trainer Beth Erlichman about having both a mother and a daughter with mental illness. Beth describes growing up with a mentally ill mother like living in a storm. At 16 she found a boarding school in another country as a way to get out and take care of herself. She grew up in a family that never talked about what was happening with her mother. Later, when Beth’s daughter had a first psychotic episode, and in the midst of all the fear and grief that that brought up, Beth knew she had to start talking about it. She movingly describes how both she and her daughter got into therapy and began the painful process of naming and talking about what was going on. Beth describes how her daughter’s poetry, and her own singing helped them express the pain they were both feeling. Lastly Beth talks about how internal family systems therapy helped her befriend the young, frightened parts of herself that had never previously been able to find a voice.